[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)

[raymondo]

Just shy of an hour, but a must watch if you have the time..... and really pretty significant. (If you handle his whiny voice!)

Ben Shapiro, founder of Daily Wire, big US Conservative commentator and influential in MAGA land, travelled to Ukraine and interviewed Zelenskyy.

Not only does Shapiro clearly understand the history and whose the agressor and whose the victim, he raises many of the Trump/MAGA talking points, Zelenskyy debunks the BS brilliantly whilst being respectful.

Could be one of the most significant interviews in a long while as the primary audience will be the MAGA base and Shapiro shows himself to be a sane Conservative and its so refreshing, hes pretty much spot on and clealry states its Putin whose the issue.

multitude of positive comments in the video from US conservatives, thanking him as they too support Ukraine!

Thanks. A solid history from Shapiro (very important for US audience), and a reality check on e.g. Trump not pressuring Putin at all for concessions. Well done, Shapiro.
Zelenskiy was good as always. He must be fed up with questions about how US aid (and how many,was it), especially accusations from US administration - but he put on an American taxpayers' hat and answered .
I found the translation (simultaneous?) rather stilted and maybe a more careful post -recording translation would have worked better.
As you say, hopefully a sizeable US audience will see it.

 

[Eric the meek]

Good to see targeted eradication of Russian Generals on Russian ground.

Think you're safe in Moscow... Boom!

Reuters report:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/senior-russian-military-officer-killed-car-explosion-moscow-region-russian-media-2025-04-25/

 

[peterward]

Thanks. A solid history from Shapiro (very important for US audience), and a reality check on e.g. Trump not pressuring Putin at all for concessions. Well done, Shapiro.
Zelenskiy was good as always. He must be fed up with questions about how US aid (and how many,was it), especially accusations from US administration - but he put on an American taxpayers' hat and answered .
I found the translation (simultaneous?) rather stilted and maybe a more careful post -recording translation would have worked better.
As you say, hopefully a sizeable US audience will see it.

100% agree about the translation, would be better to redo it, post factum now its done, to ensure better and accuracy than the insta translation thats being down and translator pausing etc.

Also agree about Shapiro, the opening 6 to 7 minutes when he summarises the conflict, was concise and heavily weighted in the truth that Russia is the aggressor, Ukraine the victim and Putin the problem.

He has almost 8m followers, here's hoping some have the Russian/MAGA false narratives pierced.

 

[Triggaaar]

This is tricky.

Canada sees the northwest passage as internal waters - based on historic claims, and supported by contemporary tools such as the Canadian Arctic Waters Pollution Prevention Regulations (AWPPA/AWPPR) and NORDREG which enforce Canadian jurisdiction on entry/use in these waters. Largely, other countries have recognised this claim and the supporting regulations, which work to reaffirm Canada's position.

However, the US does not recognise the Canadian claim, the supporting Article 234 of UNCLOS is increasingly being undermined by climate change, and the previous Trump administration called for tests of Canadian enforcement/jurisdiction through freedom of navigation operations (FONOPs). FONOPs have previously been used by the US to test/undermine sovereignty claims to ocean space, including in the South China Sea. Considering the 51 state rhetoric from the US right now it's not unfathomable that the US will demonstrate Canada's lack of sovereignty/right over the NWP and Arctic Archipelago. They've even got precedent for it when the countries were on friendlier terms - See the 1969 SS Manhattan and the 1985 Polar Sea Icebreaker voyages.

But the two points I was making are 1) the US aren't taking Canada, and 2) the US don't need Russia in order to use the northwest passage.

 

[raymondo]

View attachment 200589

https://www.reuters.com/world/documents-show-differences-over-us-peace-drive-ukraine-2025-04-25/

Thanks for posting

 

[raymondo]

this isnt a peace proposal, its a surrender/frozen conflict proposal and without any justice whatsoever.

The CIA would hunt to the ends of the earth one terrorist who commits an offence in US killing a few people, and they want to go into business with a terrorist, and let him off scot free, who has raised cities to the ground and mass murdered a million + and stolen tens of thousands of children.

I think Putin's 'peace' proposal is beautiful, it's a beautiful thing.

 

[peterward]

I think Putin's 'peace' proposal is beautiful, it's a beautiful thing.

Piece of Ukraine proposal

 

[Eric the meek]

Reuters report:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/senior-russian-military-officer-killed-car-explosion-moscow-region-russian-media-2025-04-25/

Just to add this from the Reuters report, as it is significant:

'Russian media outlet Baza, which has sources in Russia's law enforcement agencies, said a bomb in a parked car had been detonated remotely when the officer - who lived locally - walked past.'

Presumably senior military staff have their vehicles guarded, searched and/or garaged. So this means that Ukrainians/partisans found another way. Like the general who was killed by the exploding scooter, they were watching their next victim, and watching his routine movements. I wonder how many others they are watching?

 

[peterward]

Just to add this from the Reuters report, as it is significant:

'Russian media outlet Baza, which has sources in Russia's law enforcement agencies, said a bomb in a parked car had been detonated remotely when the officer - who lived locally - walked past.'

Presumably senior military staff have their vehicles guarded, searched and/or garaged. So this means that Ukrainians/partisans found another way. Like the general who was killed by the exploding scooter, they were watching their next victim, and watching his routine movements. I wonder how many others they are watching?

You could be right Eric that its Ukraine, but I wouldnt put any money on it not being the Russians themselves?

After the Donbass invasion, lots of the Russian military commanders in the DNR started getting systematically bumped off by bombs by the Russians.

Once they had served their intial purpose of the invasion and as the war evolved, they, their usefulness and all the info and secrets they new, became surplus to Putins requirements.

Including the defacto leader of DNR Alexander Zacharchenko who was blown up in broad daylight by a bomb in a chandelier in the always packed cafe used by russians and seperatist leaders in centre of Donetsk.

ofc its always "ukraine did it"..... but to get into the Separ cafe and change a chandelier wouldve proved nigh on impossible for Ukrainian secret services

Ukraine conflict: Rebel leader Givi dies in rocket attack

A second separatist commander is killed days after another pro-Russian rebel dies in a car bombing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Rebel leader Alexander Zakharchenko killed in explosion in Ukraine

Prime minister of self-declared Donetsk People’s Republic dies in cafe blast

www.theguardian.com

 

[Eric the meek]

You could be right Eric that its Ukraine, but I wouldnt put any money on it not being the Russian themselves?

After the Donbass invasion, lots of the Russian military commanders in the DNR started getting systematically bumped off by bombs by the Russians.

Once they had served their intial purpose of the invasion and as the war evolved, they, their usefulness and all the info and secrets they new, became surplus to Putins requirements.

Including the defacto leader of DNR Alexander Zacharchenko who was blown up in broad daylight by a bomb in a chandelier in the always packed cafe used by russians and seperatist leaders in centre of Donetsk.

ofc its always "ukraine did it"..... but to get into the Separ cafe and change a chandelier wouldve proved nigh on impossible for Ukrainian secret services

Ukraine conflict: Rebel leader Givi dies in rocket attack

A second separatist commander is killed days after another pro-Russian rebel dies in a car bombing.

www.bbc.co.uk

Rebel leader Alexander Zakharchenko killed in explosion in Ukraine

Prime minister of self-declared Donetsk People’s Republic dies in cafe blast

www.theguardian.com

You could be right as well !

We mustn't forget the possibility that the killing was down to Russians. To test the likelihood of such a scenario, I would like to ask the question:
'Who is Putin more scared of? Ukrainians or Russians?' IMO, he is more scared of the Russians. This isn't definitive of course, but just a rough guide.

Ukraine claimed to have killed the last unlucky Russian General, Igor Kirillov, who died from the scooter bomb. Russia claimed we (the British) killed him, but we can obviously discount that. The idea that it was Ukrainians was clearly too unpalatable for the Russians.

You are quite right to raise the prospect of internecine killings. Putin has a history of removing any and all domestic rivals and threats.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Thanks. A solid history from Shapiro (very important for US audience), and a reality check on e.g. Trump not pressuring Putin at all for concessions. Well done, Shapiro.
Zelenskiy was good as always. He must be fed up with questions about how US aid (and how many,was it), especially accusations from US administration - but he put on an American taxpayers' hat and answered .

Haven't you heard? We don't care about this war anymore.

 

[raymondo]

Piece of Ukraine proposal

A very large piece - oh, but Russia has to give back a field and a couple of trees in Kharkiv

 

[raymondo]

Haven't you heard? We don't care about this war anymore.

Yeah, soz. Is Shapiro's channel well regarded in the US?

 

[Albion my Albion]

Yeah, soz. Is Shapiro's channel well regarded in the US?

How conservative is Ben Shapiro?


Shapiro's views have been described by The New York Times as "extremely conservative" and was described by The Economist as a "radical conservative" and as a "classically religious-conservative".

I think that says most of what you need to know.

Ben Shapiro

Ben Shapiro is a renowned conservative political pundit, syndicated columnist, lawyer, and NYT bestselling author. He is Editor Emeritus of news and opinion site The Daily Wire and host of the popular video podcast, The Ben Shapiro Show. Here you can watch all episodes of Ben's podcast and find...

www.youtube.com

 

[Sirnormangall]

Reuters report:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/senior-russian-military-officer-killed-car-explosion-moscow-region-russian-media-2025-04-25/

I think the icing on the cake would be if the car in question was a Tesla

 

[carlzeiss]

I think the icing on the cake would be if the car in question was a Tesla

VW Golf

 

[raymondo]

How conservative is Ben Shapiro?


Shapiro's views have been described by The New York Times as "extremely conservative" and was described by The Economist as a "radical conservative" and as a "classically religious-conservative".

I think that says most of what you need to know.

Ben Shapiro

Ben Shapiro is a renowned conservative political pundit, syndicated columnist, lawyer, and NYT bestselling author. He is Editor Emeritus of news and opinion site The Daily Wire and host of the popular video podcast, The Ben Shapiro Show. Here you can watch all episodes of Ben's podcast and find...

www.youtube.com

Thank you,and for the links

 

[Albion my Albion]

I think the icing on the cake would be if the car in question was a Tesla

I think a lot of people would get a "charge" out of that.

 

[raymondo]

Per Jake Broe yesterday, Ukraine has not taken responsibility for the huge arsenal explosion in the Vladimir (,) region near Moscow yesterday. Apparently zero drones were seen in the area.

 

[Albion my Albion]

Apparently zero drones were seen in the area.

The Zero-X drone?